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16 October 2008
We are now
approaching the week of the meeting in the ICC Banking Commission. As always
great activity is surrounding this meeting. There are (as always) very
interesting topics on the agenda. So far the main interest has been around
two issues: The draft opinions and a new proposed way of handling those.
The draft
opinions includes a number of interesting topics – which we will address
once we have the final version; as some is indeed debatable; like what does
it take for a B/L (For the purpose of UCP 600) to “indicate that it is
issued subject to a charter party”? Also the issue of on board notations
is again on the table; and no less than 3 queries circle around this; so if
nothing else it does seem like some final authoritative statement is
required.
The fact that
the ICC Banking Commission is seeking a new way of handling the opinions is
most welcome. At the outset they suggest to circulate the comments from the
National commissions by means of e-mail. Originally it was suggested to
upload those to an Intranet. We must see where it lands. To me it is not
that important how this is done; what is important is that the comments are
made available before the meeting – so the participants to the meeting have
access to the comments and arguments made.
Also on the
agenda is of course the 2nd draft to the new URDG – surely that
discussion will be interesting as well.
We will revert
after the meeting and touch upon some of the many interesting things that
arises form the smoke.
See you later.
Best regards
Kim
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15 September 2008
During
September and October many national ICC Committees are meeting to discuss
the 2nd URDG draft. For me personally the process of producing comments to
the URDG has been quite an interesting experience. It is – I guess – of no
surprise to anyone that I come from “the land of LCs” – so discussing with
guarantee specialists is indeed different, challenging and rewarding. In my
experience many of the discussions regarding the new articles circles around
the new wordings that are heavily based on the UCP 600. These articles
provide different challenges for example:
- Some
concepts that are commonly known to LC Specialists – are far from known to
guarantee specialist. For example the preclusion rule (sub-article 24(f) –
in 2nd URDG draft). This rule makes no immediate sense to all
guarantee specialists – and some of the people I have talked to were in
fact surprised about how rigorous this rule in fact is; i.e. that a simple
technical mistake in the “notice of refusal” can have such sever
consequences.
- Other
concepts taken from the UCP 600 – seems redundant. For example the “waiver
rule” (sub-article 24(b) – in 2nd URDG draft). Even under LC’s
one can argue that this rule is merely saying the obvious: That the issuer
has a right to contact the applicant to find out if (s)he want to waive
the discrepancies. However in a guarantee, which is a “passive”
instrument, there are only few claims made (compared to the number of
guarantees issued) AND when a claim is made one must expect that there is
a dispute between the parties – and the applicant want to refuse to pay if
at all possible. It is therefore rather unlikely that the applicant would
want to waive the discrepancies.
In other words: It is not a provision that does any “damage” – but it is
hard for me to see the real relevance.
- Opposite I
feel about sub-article 20(b) in the 2nd URDG draft. This is
where you find a substantial element of the new “standard for examination
of the documents”. The principle is similar to that of UCP 600 sub-article
14(d), which says that:
Data in a document, when read in context with the credit, the document
itself and international standard banking practice, need not be identical
to, but must not conflict with, data in that document, any other
stipulated document or the credit.
As far as I can see, such provision may well be suited for LCs – where the
beneficiary are to present documents in order to get paid; i.e. knowing
that the documents will be scrutinised under the LC – but hardly
appropriate under a guarantee. In case the guarantee – in addition to the
demand – requires other documents e.g. copy of invoice and bill of lading,
such should – in general terms – only be considered accompanying documents
– and should not be the basis for a rejection of the presentation.
- In general
it seems to me that the guarantee specialists are used to a bit more
“loose” provisions than the LC specialists; so these “fixed” number of
days, years or whatever does in fact take a bit to get used to :-)
The above being
said I must add that it is such a pleasure to have a “full draft” – i.e.
including all articles – to comment on. The URDG drafting group have really
been doing a great job in producing the first two drafts. In general the
Trade Finance community should really appreciate the work done by the URDG
drafting group. I have seen a number of the sets of comments submitted by
the various national committees – and it is indeed striking how different a
focus they have – which makes the task of the drafters much more challenging.
The deadline
for submitting the comments is 6 November – and before that I feel confident
that this 2nd draft will be discussed at the meeting in the ICC
Banking Commission end October. It will be interesting indeed to follow this
discussion.
Best regards
Kim
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1 September 2008
Was that really that
summer? That went fast for sure. It seems to me that it has been busy for
all of us – and being busy … well then at least you do not get bored :-) If
you are too busy however it may mean that you decline things that you should
not have declined – and misses great opportunities. Just recently I was so
close making exactly that mistake, and I would like to share that with
you here. Somehow the case I will tell you about is connected to my
posting 1 June – i.e. published 3 months ago.
It is related
to the question asked by Sheilar – and answered here as “SWQ
105: Availability versus place of expiry”. When I first read this
question my
immediate thought was: This LC is ambiguous – and it makes no sense
trying
to “interpret” an LC where the issuing bank clearly is missing the point: If
the LC is broken – the remedy is either
1) an amendment or
2) returning the LC –
3)
not UCP 600 guessing.
Therefore I was
that close to simply rejecting it by saying: Contact issuing demanding for
an amendment!
It is however
so that I am normally intrigued by the issues and questions raised
by Sheilar – because they are always so well thought through – and perfectly
founded in rules and practice.
Therefore I
decided to dig a bit into this case. What struck me in that process was
that everyone I spoke with seemed to be quite familiar with this type of LC;
or in other words: there are many of those LCs out there – being handled on
a daily basis. Is that not odd? Perhaps it is – and perhaps it is not. In
any case I also found that the people I spoke to – actually were fully aware
that such LC is not in line with UCP 600 – but somehow had decided to go
along with it. The good question of course: Why do they do that? Well;
because they are working out there in real life – and the fact of real life
is that you try to make things work as smooth for your customer
as you possibly
can – and only make a hassle when something is really wrong!
So if you for example – after having spend two weeks in trying to get an
amendment in vain – decides not to handle the LC – you do not win a
medal! You may even loose the customer :-) So even within the LC sphere
things need to work – not least in practice.
This is where I
come to my 1 June posting. In that one I noted the following:
I have been
thinking lately whether or not the distance between the LC officers working
with the UCP 600 on a daily basis and the LC commentators and LC experts are
becoming too big.
As far as I can
see this case is a perfect example of how the perspective of the LC
officers and the LC commentators is in fact quite big. I feel confident that
many LC commentators would merely say – as was my original thought: The LC
is ambiguous – no need to waste your time on that one. But still when such
LC ticks into the computer screen of an LC officer (s)he does not have that
privilege: The case must be handled – and of course in an efficient manner:
The “right” decision must be taken quickly!
I am not saying
that banks should just accept everything that is written in LCs – and I am
sure they do not. I am merely saying that it is easy for the LC commentator
to refuse a question on the ground that the LC is ambiguous. It is much
harder being that LC officer that has to handle it – finding the right
balance on what is acceptable from a risk perspective – and what is
acceptable from a customer perspective.
I could
just have refused to answer the
question from Sheilar – which would have been the
easiest. I did not do that – and looking back at the discussions I had based
on that I am happy that I did not.
Best regards
Kim
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Comment from VV: Dear Kim,
As a L/C user, when I receive the L/C that is
available with issuing bank by payment as well as expiry place at
beneficiary’s country, I would not consider it as a problem.
First, if I expect or don’t mind to receive a
payment L/C, then there is nothing wrong. If I want to receive a
negotiation L/C, it is nothing deal with the conflicting terms.
Second, the expiry place at beneficiary’s
country is favorable to beneficiary and presenting bank, that it gives
more time to send the documents to issuing bank. So there is no reason
to amend the place of expiry to issuing bank.
Therefore, everyone feels comfortable, even a
little strange!
L/C is only a tool, human is rational.
See you!!
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1 August 2008
Summertime … nice indeed. I hope that you have been
enjoying it too – but now it is time to take lcviews.com out of its one
month long hibernation :-)
We have many great things in the pipeline for you. I
will however start this posting with a celebration to all of you out there
so dedicated to the LC – working so hard to truly understand the inner being
of this strange “animal”. At one point in time I did some LC training in the
UAE – and I was just so impressed about the knowledge and dedication to LC’s
at that place … to me it was like being in paradise :-) It seems to me that
there are those small great oases out there – where the interest and
dedication is just a bit (perhaps even a lot) above average. In this edition
of “Editors Journal” – I will actually focus on another LC oasis that I have
been so very fortunate to get to know; namely Bangladesh. I meet so many
great LC specialists from Bangladesh on internet and e-mails. Common for
them is the desire to understand the LC; they come with an open mind
unafraid to ask all the “silly” questions – which of course turns out not to
be so silly after all. Here I will focus on two of them – both of which have
been just been added to Who’s Who in LC World.
One is Shahriar Mansun:
The other one is Nesarul
Hoque:
….
What else … well the ICC have just published the new
version of URR – the Uniform Rules for Reimbursements. The “new” name is URR
725. The new coastline solutions newsletter takes you through that one …
read
more here.

All for now! As said – we have lots
of material in the pipeline so check out the page ….
Best regards
Kim
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1 June 2008
| Rapidly
approaching the one year birthday for UCP 600, it seems that an endless
line of questions continues to be addressed. Most of them related to the
practical application of the rules. I have been thinking lately whether
or not the distance between the LC officers working with the UCP 600 on
a daily basis and the LC commentators and LC experts are becoming too
big. I would not know really - but will try to focus on that in the time
to come.
Coming back to the birthday - one month from now
- I hereby invite comments from you. I would really like to know how you
think that the UCP 600 is working. Is it a success? Is "LC life" better
now - than it was before 1 July 2007?
Kindly send your comments to lcviews@lcviews.com
I would also mention one Single Window answer we
have published today; namely SW-90. In that one I call for copies of
transport documents that are of interest in relation to ISBP § 114. Such
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Finally I will
mention the latest newsletter from Coastline Solutions:
http://www.coastlinesolutions.com/news.htm
In that one
Gary Collyer goes through some of the ICC Opinions approved at the April
meeting in the ICC Banking Commission. It is highly appreciated that this
information now starts to flow freely on the internet. What puzzles me
though is that the summary of each opinion ends with the following "See
opinion TAXXX for the full transcript of the opinion". I fail to see where
such "full transcript" is available - except of course in the DC-Pro Focus -
which requires payment of a yearly fee. I hope however that this is the
first step towards full disclosure of those ICC Opinions - that are such
important part of "international standard banking practice".
Best regards
Kim
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Comment from VV:
Dear Kim,
For me, UCP600 and ISBP 681 are only the new rules
of the game. They are designed and decided by a group of experts in the
blackbox, who have different ideas as well as different interest backgrounds.
Their compromises always don't bring the best results. Some newly added
things result improvement, e.g. Art 12b, although they have been expected
too long. However, some make the original rules vaguer than before, e.g.,
Art 20 concerning port of loading different from place of receipt.
As a user since ICC 298, what I can do is to follow
the rules written down and wait for the new opinions and cases. It may be a
little sad but true. Nevertheless, UCP and ISBP are only part of the game,
and the rest, such as the underlying contracts and relationship between the
contracts' parties, are still dominant. But the L/C would be gradually
abandoned by the users, if the articles and rules have gone too far from
reality and difficult to be applied.
I like to take this chance to thank all the experts
in LCviews, since you have provided such good platform for the L/C users to
discuss and learn, especially in the difficult time.
VV
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April 2008
I have been thinking hard ... should I start this posting
with a happy or angry smiley??
Simply can not
decide ... so I will do this posting without any kind of graphics
whatsoever. So read my words!
In my previous
posting I mentioned a number of issues to be discussed at the Athens
meeting in the ICC Banking Commission. Looking at those alone - the
angry smiley is no far away ...
Here is some kind of overview:
Sanctions:
The ICC will work further on this one. The initial opinion given will not
stand - as this issue will not be "answered" in the form of an official
opinion. Form and time frame is unknown (to me at least).
Signature in
lieu of a barcode on courier receipts:
The part of the
question dealing specifically with this issue will (as far as I am informed)
be removed from the official opinion – as this is not asked for in the
question …
Bills of
lading allowing the shipping lines to release the goods without one original
being presented:
The Query will
be sent to the ICC Commissions on “Logistics and Transport” and “Commercial
Law and Practice” – so answer still pending …
So on these
central issues – no answer was given. I must admit that that left me a bit
disappointed – but then one must of course focus on the positive side of
things: Many good answers were in fact given – it was a truly enjoy full
meeting – and perhaps more important:
3 new
books on LCs were published:
Users’
Handbook for Documentary Credits under UCP 600
By Prof. John Dolan and Walter (Buddy) Baker
The Complete
UCP - Uniform Customs and Practice for Documentary Credits
Texts, Rules and History 1920-2007
Written and Compiled by Dan
Taylor
Insights
into UCP 600
Collected Articles from DCI 2003 to 2008
Edited by Ron Katz
Especially the
latter is interesting from the perspective of lcviews, as quite a few
lcviews editorial board members are represented:
T.O. Lee
N.D. George
Pavel Andrle
Donald R. Smith
Kim Christensen
Pradeep Taneja
Not bad at all!
URDG
Revision
Also on the
agenda at the ICC meeting in Athens was the revision on the URDG. At some
point in time I asked if lcviews should cover that one. A few answers
supported this – so we will soon open a page – as a minimum reporting from
the process. Look out for the page … coming soon.
The simplest
document in the world
Last but not
least – I received a simple question – that did create some headache for me
– and I would like to share it with you – and of course highly appreciate
any comments you may have:
A new provision
to the UCP 600 is sub-article 14(f) that reads:
If a credit
requires presentation of a document other than a transport document,
insurance document or commercial invoice, without stipulating by whom the
document is to be issued or its data content, banks will accept the document
as presented if its content appears to fulfil the function of the required
document and otherwise complies with sub-article 14 (d).
Regarding
the phrase “fulfil the function” … what does that mean exactly? And
perhaps more interesting: Is this provision effectively changing document
examination principles?
The case I got
was the following: When the LC calls for a “packing list” – then it
should be examined according to 14(f), and what would be the “required
function” of a packing list?
Most likely
that the document must show the “packing details”. And what does that mean?
Does it mean that the document must show the “packing units” – e.g.
“crates”, “packages”, “cartons” or “pallets”?
Not really
having thought about too deep before, I would (personal) interpret this
somewhat wide – i.e. certainly not look for the type of packaging that has
been used. I guess that my general angle would be that as long as the
packing list shows the goods shipped - then there should be something
extraordinary if it could in fact be refused.
So if for
example it is titled "packing list" (knowing full well the rule on document
titles) showing the exact same goods description as the invoice - I would
normally accept it.
I know that the
above it is indeed arguable - but it is the practice I see every day - and
the only problems I see is where:
-
There is an
obvious conflict between the data in the packing list and other documents
and/or the LC
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There is a
precise requirement to the packing list spelled out in the LC - that is
somehow not complied with.
What do you
think? How to examine a packing list – the simplest document in the world?
Best regards
Kim
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Comment from VV: Dear Kim,
I think the "fulfil the function" is the matter
of degree. It may subjectively depend on the understanding of the
documents' categories and usages. In your example, the "packing list"
showing the goods description as invoice would normally be accepted by
you, but what if the goods description is just "machinery" without
mentioning any quantity or packing? When "packing list" is required, it
would be reasonably expected the documents containing something, even a
word, about the packing (or quantity sometimes).
For instance, LC calls for "inspection
certificate", and titled "inspection certificate" showing the goods
description only is presented. I normally would accept, because the
title of document has made me believe the goods were inspected. However,
it is based on the lowest degree of the "fulfil the function". But in
case of "packing list" title can't make it.
VV
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9 April 2008
There is now less than one week to the meeting in the
ICC Banking Commission, and it is the same as always; trying to find out who
is attending – discussing the topics that will be up for discussion at the
meeting etc. etc.
One discussion of particular interest to me is the
ICC Opinion regarding sanctions – i.e. where an issuing bank refused
to honour complying documents due to sanctions. The potential consequences
of that one are huge … and I fear for the final outcome …
There is another question up – that although not a
major issue – to me is of a very principal nature.
The
scenario is an LC calling for “courier receipt showing that copy
documents have been sent to the applicant” or similar, and the document
presented does not show any signature – only a bar code. The reason that I
consider this a very principal issue is that it seems to me that the
“challenge” is that current practice seems somewhat far from the current
rules.
In such circumstances what would be the correct
approach:
- Either to “interpret” the rules according to
practice
(opening a new door for interpretations: does this apply to other
documents as well?)
– or –
- Require that the wording of the LC supports
practice – in this case clearly allows for a receipt showing a bar code in
lieu of a signature
(opening for potentially silly refusals)
Working at a place where we have the possibility of
printing our courier “receipts” ourselves – I must admit that I tent to lean
towards possibility #2 – i.e. that the LC must clearly allow for such. The
reason is that I see many “receipts” being printed every day – and not used
– it may be because of a wrong address – in any case it is thrown out. This
means that the formal receipt by the courier company is given when
registered by the bar code reader, when the pouch is picked up – until then
it is just printed … i.e. nor really a receipt of anything ...
Also
of interest is a question about bills of lading allowing the shipping lines
to release the goods without one original being presented. E.g. a wording
like the following “If the carrier so requires, one original bill of lading
must be surrendered in exchange for the goods..”
No preliminary answer has been given – rather the
ICC have been seeking the advice of the National ICC Committees on how to
proceed. It is still not at all clear what will be the outcome at the
meeting. The most likely result is that there will be no answer – as “such
issues are not for bankers to determine”. I surely hope that I will be in
for a surprise though – as this issue is a real problem out there in the
real world; some banks are refusing based on this – while others are
accepting it. So in my perspective any clear answer will be a benefit to the
LC community.
Mr. T.O. Lee has written a rather comprehensive
article on this issue titled “HOW TO RESOLVE THE DELIVERY CLAUSE PROBLEM IN
A BILL OF LADING” – published in the latest issue of LC Monitor (Volume 10,
Issue 1, January - March 2008).
This issue was also touched upon by Mr. Gary Collyer
at the Coastline Solutions newsletter number 14
(http://www.coastlinesolutions.com/news13.htm).
Speaking of that one – a new issue has just been
released:
http://www.coastlinesolutions.com/news.htm
with the poetic title “To refuse or not to
refuse!” …
As the title so indicates the newsletter addresses
UCP 600 article 16 – going through the process of how to make a “correct”
refusal of LC documents – pinpointing pitfalls and traps and giving good
advice. It is in my view a very good and practical walk through one of the
core UCP 600 articles.
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It is hereby
recommended! |
Not too long ago – such information was simply not
available in the public space. Now it is – free of charge – just one click
away. Gosh I love the internet

See you again – after Athens …

Best regards
Kim
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March 2008
Today we have published the last
article in the promised “Transport Series” by Mr. Vlad Cioarec. Personally
it has been a pure thrill following these articles – and on behalf on
lcviews I would like to thank Mr. Vlad Cioarec. I feel confident that the
readers of lcviews have enjoyed those as well.
| Besides that our
Single Window service is surely gaining momentum. A steady flow of great
questions keeps coming in.
We appreciate that – and do our best to
answer all questions as fast as we can.
We do however ask you patience … we will reply
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According to UN/CEFACT,
a "single window" is defined as «(...) a facility that allows
parties involved in trade and transport to lodge standardized
information and documents with a single entry point to fulfil all
import, export, and transit-related regulatory requirements».
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Soon we
enter the month of April – which this year is a special month for the LC
community. The reason is that the ICC Banking Commission will meet in Athens
– and I know that many members and readers of lcviews will participate.
Besides some fairly interesting “Opinions” – a main part of the agenda is
dedicated to “Rules”. There will be given status reports on the revision on
URDG and Incoterms as well as URR (Which has been revised to be in line with
UCP 600). In the lcviews editorial board we are considering covering the
revision of the URDG – the ICC rules for demand guarantees. We will of
course only do that if there is a desire amongst the readers of lcviews to
read about that one. At this point in time we do not see this need (??) –
but seek your view on this: Would you recommend that we dedicate some space
on lcviews for this work? Kindly use the link below and let us have your
comment.
Best regards
Kim
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March 2008
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Question: How to get a
perfect answer?
Question: How to get perfect quality?
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It is obvious to anyone following lcviews that the “Single
Window Q&A” page is a huge success. It goes without saying that the
editorial board is very pleased with that. At the same time we are fully
aware that providing such service demands great respect and responsibility.
Although all of us do what we do because we love it – we are serious about
it: We want to give perfect quality to the persons submitting questions –
and of course to you – the readers of lcviews.
This leads me to the two rhetorical questions
opening this posting: We want to give perfect quality – but that requires a
certain standard of the questions. We have felt the need to update the “terms”
for submitting a question – but also we have added a new page: “How
to make a perfect submission?” – providing guidelines when asking a
question. At the same time we have made it possible to submit questions via
a simple e-mail – e.g. allowing for enclosures.
We hope that you appreciate this initiative – and I
will end this posting with my answers to the two questions asked above:
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Question: How to get a
perfect answer?
Answer: Ask the perfect question!
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perfect quality?
Answer: Give perfect quality!
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Best regards
Kim
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29 February 2008

I have the pleasure of
introducing Mr. Vlad Cioarec (picture above) and a brand new page on
lcviews.com: En route. The two are happily
connected: It so happens that Mr. Cioarec generously has provided a number
of articles for lcviews. All of those deal with transport vis-à-vis LCs. It
is no coincidence that I mention “Transport” first – as the starting point
for Mr. Cioarec – is exactly transport. In my view this makes his articles
unique to lcviews – where the majority of contributors have an LC background
– and view transport from that perspective. In other words Mr. Cioarec
allows the readers of lcviews a fine insight into the real transport
practice.
The first article “Multimodal
transport documents and the UCP 600 - Frequently asked questions on the MMTD
document” is available now on the new page “En
route”. During the month of March one article by Mr. Cioarec will be
published each week on lcviews – so look out for those – and not least:
Please let Mr. Cioarec and the other readers of lcviews have your views,
comments or questions.
A bio of Mr. Cioarec is
available in “Who’s Who in LC
World”
“En
route” is built on the recognition that transport is an area that is
a source of constant confusion for the LC banker. It tries to provide
practical answers and guidance to some of the challenges that the LC banker
and their customers meet in their daily lives. Of course the intention is
that this section will grow – in order to become a valuable source for
understanding the transport industry. I hope you enjoy it. Personally I am
thrilled!
Happy reading – see you
in March.
Best regards
Kim
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19 February 2008
I
am sure that you have noted a change in lcviews.com. We have changed the
design of the pages slightly. The reason is that some readers have noted
that the text was hard to read on the blue background. Personally I loved
that blue background – but of course it is very important that it is easy to
read the pages. In other words we have chosen “readability” to “sexy pages”
:-)
We have been through every single page on the
website in the process – so if you encounter bugs – or something that looks
odd – kindly drop us an e-mail.
So what is new on the LC side … well still new
questions and new material keep coming in … so keep an eye on the website ….
Thanks and see you soon.
Kim
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Dear lcviews reader,
| Did we ever talk about the art of
making mistakes? Okay – let’s talk about the art of making mistakes …..
No doubt the human brain works in mysterious
ways. I guess we have all tried to deliver a paper, task, assignment or
similar on – say – 10 pages asking for comments – and the only comment
received would be “there is a typo on page six!”. Hmm well nice – but
what did you think about the other 9,9 pages?
Even the ISBP deals with mistakes – spelling
mistakes - that is. ISBP paragraph 25 reads: |

A
picture from the great Laurel & Hardy movie "Their first mistake"
(many to follow ...) |
A misspelling or typing error that does not
affect the meaning of a word or the sentence in which it occurs, does not
make a document discrepant. For example, a description of the merchandise as
“mashine” instead of “machine”, “fountan pen” instead of “fountain pen” or
“modle” instead of “model” would not make the document discrepant. However,
a description as “model 123” instead of “model 321” would not be regarded as
a typing error and would constitute a discrepancy.
[And I should add that my very
clever MS Word spelling tool did in fact identify the 3 intentional spelling
mistakes]
This is actually one of the paragraphs that some LC
users do find a bit troublesome; when will a spelling mistake affect the
meaning – and who is to decide? For me it is pure bless to have such
paragraph: Of course you should not refuse a presentation of USD 1000000000
because the beneficiary wrote “mashine” instead of “machine” …. when it is
apparent that the right goods have been sent at the right time.
There is a huge focus on mistakes – that may change
focus from what it should be. It seems to me this focus on mistakes has the
consequence that many people are afraid of making them – hence afraid of
taking chances, and also afraid of admitting the mistakes they have made. I
for one believe that removing ISBP (2003) paragraph 82 (Hong Kong versus
Hong Kong CY) was a clear mistake – but I have not heard anyone admitting
that (??)
On lcviews.com we are not afraid of making mistakes
– and admitting the mistakes that we do :-)
An example:
Just the other day – I was updating the website – we
had 5 Single Window Q&As ready for upload (#26-30) – and all of a sudden 3
new questions popped in. It was a bit late in the evening but I thought:
Well – lets include those 3 in the “package” so I answered immediately – and
the upload then included 8 Q&As; which is actually quite many – taken into
account that all members of the lcviews editorial board have other – primary
jobs – and lcviews tasks are done in their free time.
One of the uploaded questions was # 32 (
http://www.lcviews.com/swq_32.htm )
The question was:
| An LC subject to UCP 600 included the following
requirement:
“Ocean bill of lading indicating port of
loading as china and port of discharge as B. Abbas, Iran''
The B/l presented indicated as port of loading china
and as port of discharge B. Abbas, Iran.
In addition to this it also mentioned “place of
final delivery as SEZ, Tehran”.
Does this constitute a discrepancy?
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My answer was – in short – that it is acceptable
that a bill of lading shows a place of final delivery in addition to the
port of discharge as stated in the LC.
Quite soon after the page was published I received
the following kind and helpful message:
| May be Kim has forgotten a recent
opinion of the ICC Banking Commission.
Even if the credit states "any port in China" as
port of loading, the BL must specify the name of the port of loading and
"China" or "Any port in China" are not acceptable, unless the on board
notation has the name of the port of loading stated therein.
|
The truth was – that I had not “forgotten” that one
– but I did not even come around to consider it!! And of course that one was
very relevant here – but my sole focus was the place of final destination …
So there you have it: A mistake – and one that
actually matters! As you can see from the answer available now – I did in
fact take in the good advice – and changed my answer.
The points I am trying to make with this example is
that:
- We work – hence we make mistakes.
- We do not strive for mistakes – but we are not
afraid of them.
- When we make mistakes – we are not afraid to
admit it.
- When we make mistakes – we correct them of course!!
So there you have it!
In line with the above: In the message where I
announced the upload of the 8 Single Window Q&As I quoted two great jokes
kindly received from T.O. Lee. I repeat those here – this time without the
typos :-)
| As Chinese New Year is coming (7th
February 2008) I would like to add some interest to an otherwise dry
subject like UCP with two jokes about letter of credit.
Joke No. 1
A banker points out a discrepancy in a BL
endorsed with the disclaimer clause "1 % stains found in stainless steel
plates" Reason: "Stainless" steel, on its face, cannot have stains "on
its face".
Joke No. 2
A banker who has issued a back-to-back credit
wishes to deny payment against the baby credit when the master credit
presentation has incurable discrepancies.
The notice of refusal states:
The goods description in the commercial invoice
is (i) inconsistent and (ii) not fulfilling the function of the goods.
12,000 bottles of Krug Champagne Reims 1988,
Brut 12% volume, 75 cl, Produce of France. Marked "By appointment to
Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Purveyors of Champagne", whereas the
credit only states 12,000 bottles of Krug Champagne 75 cl, French
origin.
Brut (not specified in the credit) means dry in
French and Champagne being a drink cannot be dry. A dried out champagne
does not fulfil the function of a Champagne.
|
All from me this time. Comments are of course most
welcome.
Best regards
Kim
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January 2008
January
…. where I come from January is more or less identical to ”grey”, ”cold”,
”tired” and similar expressions. For the LC community I must admit though
that January has been a truly great month…
Here on
lcviews.com we have had a busy month. We have opened “Traders
Corner”, published an original interview
with Mr. Bogdan Ilie – as well as other original articles – not to
mention a number of
Single
Window
Q&As. In other
words 2008 have started just perfect – and we still have lots of good stuff
just waiting to be shared.
Also
looking beyond our own pages – there are lots
to report.
ICC’s
Trade Finance publication DCInsight presented itself in a brand new
design (Vol 14, no 1 – January – March 2008). It is surely a professional
and well thought out design – but I guess you could say that on the content
side – nothing has really changed … and thank you for that!
There
are still
a number of good articles
written by really good authors. Let me mention a few:
Radek Dobás has made a survey amongst banks in Central and Eastern
Europe on how they have implemented the UCP 600 (Issues ands question
marks).
Pavel Andrle – lcviews.com
editor – explores the unfortunate trend that some banks have of excluding
UCP 600 provisions (Excluding articles: a troublesome trend).
Frank Reynolds and Donald
Smith – lcviews.com editor –reports on the reactions from the
customers when presenting the UCP 600 across the USA. Really interesting and
insightful (Reports from the UCP seminars (part 2)).
Also
very interesting is an interview with Farideh Tazhibi on the revision
on the URDG – with special focus on Iran. After reading that, one is really
eager to get hold of a draft
of
the “URDG under revision”. I hope it will be out soon (The URDG and
demand guarantees in
Iran).
My
personal favourite however is the article by Bill Cameron. His outset
is the great eye-opening book “The world is Flat” by Thomas L.
Friedman. Bills great (and actually very simple) conclusion is that the
banking community is living in a vertical world, while our clients are
increasingly living in a flat world … more of that please! (Needed:
modern cross-border payment solutions)
Then I
have a small article trying to analyse how the banking community perceives
“shipment” ….(The anatomy of “shipment” in L/C transactions)
Finally
I need to mention the Swedish country report written by my dear colleague
Hossein Moezzi. I so enjoy his writing; he cuts right to the bone – and
says out loud what most people is only thinking or whispering.
[Link
to DCInsight:
click here]
[Info on Thomas L.
Friedman:
Click
here]
BUT
THAT IS NOT ALL … LC Monitor published their Volume 9, Issue 4,
October - December 2007 issue, and also here there is good stuff for LC
hungry readers. Just to mention a few:
The
great Vincent O’Brien
continues his Doc. Credit Clinic – still in pursuit of the Article 20
controversy – i.e. the UCP 600 requirement for on board notations when the
bill of lading shows a place of receipt different from the port of loading.
At least for one of the answers I am not totally convinced that he reaches
the same conclusion as the ICC Banking Commission would, but he would have
my backup for sure!
I have
taken the task of showing that LCs often contains far too much unnecessary
information. I hope someone will listen. It would surely make my life
easier :-) (Discrepancies Exposed: Making L/Cs Simple).
T.O. Lee – lcviews.com Technical
Adviser –
have an – as always – insightful article – which takes the reader through
the UCP 600 pinpointing the places where there is a mismatch between
industry practice and the UCP 600. Surely one to learn from! (Anomalies
in UCP 600 articles).
[Link
to LC Monitor: click
here]
BUT
THAT IS NOT ALL AT ALL as LC Monitor launched a newsletter:
Trade Services Update. It is Co-edited by
Zahoor N. Dattu and myself
(again lcviews.com editors) – I need not describe this as it is fully
available here:
//www.lcmonitor.com/lcm_newsletter_req.htm
where
it is also possible to sign up for the next issues (the February issue is
out soon – hours rather than days).
AND
DO YOU THINK THAT IS ALL ??… well it is not … because in other remote
places on the internet there are people with the same interest. Let me just
mention the
letterofcreditforum where you can always find – and participate in – a
good discussion.
So what
can I say: January has been a great month, not least for lcviews.com … just
note the way that lcviews.com (via the editorial board
members) has been
everywhere …who can ask
for more??
My best regards and see you in
February.
Kim
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